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Does Owning An Office Give Your Business A Better Chance At Success?


When myself and Matt moved to the Philippines in May of 2011 we thought that opening an office would be the right path for our business to take. We thought if we could get all our staff in one place, it would have a number of benefits for our business.

  1. Increased Productivity – We thought by us looking over their shoulder, we would be improving the amount of work getting done. Wrong! Firstly its pretty simple to install remote monitoring software (we currently use TimeDoctor.com), which I would argue works better then physically looking over their shoulder. Secondly, if you are hiring these sort of employees then you might want to look at your hiring techniques.
  2. Lower Staff Turnover Rate – We thought having people working in the same area, they would develop relationships together and therefore prefer to stick around. This generally wasn’t the case, as we had multiple staff leave as soon as they were offered a position working from home.
  3. Improved Line of Communication – Having the ability to walk up to somebody’s desk and train them / talk to them is definitely and advantage, however we found that 95% both us and the team would talk to each other via skype anyways! So why not just meet up once a month and talk through everything?

I honestly remember thinking that opening an office would change everything, like some sort of magic bullet that would bring the money / clients flowing through the door.

In fact opening an office perhaps was the worst decision we have made since moving to the Philippines. I know there are plenty of cases of foreigners moving to the Philippines and opening offices and being huge successes, but I am strongly of the opinion that most people do not need to open an office here in order to be successful. Particularly for people who are not inclined to management, like myself and Matt. I do not want to spend my day micro-managing staff, its just not my style.

I worked for an Australian guy here in Manila, helping him manage his staff for a few months and I am still not really sure where the benefits to the office he had were. What I noticed was that all the staff would still communicate via skype, even if they sat next to each other! They would all still sneak a look at facebook, or have a little nap or sit on their phones messaging their girlfriends. So what was the purpose of this office? Why not send them all home? I could see their being a real productivity drop and I could see the entire team being a lot happier with their working situation.

Infact, I spoke to most of the staff working for them and the minimal travel time for these guys was an hour each way! Minimal! Imagine how much happier the team would be saving themselves 2 hours a day!

Examples of Businesses Succeeding Without An Office

Adsense Flippers – Joe and Justin are buddies of ours and we have seen first hand how they have built an adsense empire from the Philippines with staff that work from home. They currently run a team of around 10 I believe.

James Schramko - This guy always comes to mind when I think of someone who has built a remote staff empire! Don’t quote me on this but I believe he has a team of over 50 working for him mostly here in the Philippines! Great example of someone killing it with the work from home model. Not to mention his a fellow Aussie ;)

Kissmetrics – A big player in the online analytics space, their entire team work from remote locations and it does not seem to have affected them in any way.

TropicalMBA – The number 1 advocate of remote location / location independent business setup. Dan & Ian have managed to start a million dollar ecommerce empire along with some other great projects.

Eben Pagan – Another guy running a multi-million dollar empire, with over 50 staff all working for home.

When Is An Office Worth It?

It depends on the amount of revenue you are generating.

If you are churning out a million dollars in revenue, then an office is a much more justifiable option. The cost of an office would be a lot smaller percentage of your revenue. When you are a small startup, then the cost associated with starting an office is a lot more of your overall revenues for something that in today’s day and age I would argue plays a very little role in helping create value for your target market.

Anyone else out there that may running successful remote teams?

PS Our Filipino job site is starting to help quite a number of entrepreneurs find and set up remote teams for themselves

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About johnpaulgrant

John Paul Grant is the co-founder of Kaizenify, a startup by two Australians living in the Philippines. John has a passion for lifestyle business design through internet business & marketing techniques. The companies main branch is a Philippines Virtual Assistant Company, RemoteWorkmate.com. You can follow John on Twitter & LinkedIn. If You have any questions feel free to write or chat with him via skype.
  • Nick Loper

    That’s an interesting experience with the office for sure. All that overhead for no gain.

    I’m with you — people working from home are generally happier and more productive, but the perception still seems to be the opposite.

    I feel like most people looking to hire a VA would be more comfortable with them working in some office, rather than from home. It’s a weird bias, and probably an unjustified one.

    • http://www.lifestylebusinessdesign.com John Paul Grant

      Thanks for dropping by Nick. Yeah I think it may take a generation or two to really shift majority perceptions unfortunately. Time will tell.

  • http://www.lifestylebusinessdesign.com/ Matt John Canty

    Nice post bro, glad to see you back on the blogesphere :) really really wish we didn’t open that new office! Would love the extra $10k for a product, or to invest in some other avenue but live and learn

  • http://www.nomadcouch.com/ Juha Liikala

    Thought-provoking post John.

    As we’re currently bouncing the very idea of “renting a fixed location office” for our startup, this post came out just at the right time. Like you know, as I’ve been a location independent work advocate for so long, I get the creeps even thinking about dragging myself to a fixed location office everyday. Seriously, I find it really hard to come up with a single good reason why I (or any of our staff) should – as we can just as well do all our work (and the meetings!) from the location we personally choose (as long as there’s a good WiFi available – of course)!

    I think the “need to have an fixed office” is something hardwired in our minds as entrepreneurs. A common practice, that we have just recently started to question.

    I really like the idea of coworking spaces. Those type of hubs have started to pop up in almost every big(ish) city now, and they are a great intersection of having a fixed office vs. just working from your favorite coffee shop. You can pretty much come and go as you please and as a extra plus, you also meet like-minded folks there for bouncing ideas and just having fun together.

    Thanks again for this piece and the best of success for Kaizenify! Cheers!

    • http://www.lifestylebusinessdesign.com John Paul Grant

      Hey mate. I agree coworking spaces are a great option. If only Manila had more. Would love to learn more about your startup :)

      • http://www.nomadcouch.com/ Juha Liikala

        Our startup WebVehicle is currently in funding phase and launching to open public 1Q 2013. We’re building something similar to Carfax.com for Nordic markets (Finland first, then other Nordic countries). Would be happy to discuss this in more detail after we launch. :)

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